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		<title>By: Ed Davies</title>
		<link>http://blog.iandavis.com/2007/12/303-asymmetry/comment-page-1#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S:

In a message on the TAG list you wrote:

&quot;Yes. We better hurry up and get the link header through the ietf - there
are more and more uses for it every day :)&quot;

I fully support that.

I rather like TimBL&#039;s N3 header for power but any sensible design&#039;s better than ignoring the matter and having a heap of kludges with content negotiation and so on crop up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S:</p>
<p>In a message on the TAG list you wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes. We better hurry up and get the link header through the ietf &#8211; there<br />
are more and more uses for it every day <img src='http://blog.iandavis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221;</p>
<p>I fully support that.</p>
<p>I rather like TimBL&#8217;s N3 header for power but any sensible design&#8217;s better than ignoring the matter and having a heap of kludges with content negotiation and so on crop up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tore Eriksson</title>
		<link>http://blog.iandavis.com/2007/12/303-asymmetry/comment-page-1#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>Tore Eriksson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Reposting since the previous post had the markup removed. Please delete it if possible.)

My non-kosher solution:

GET /R HTTP/1.1
Host: example.org
Accept: application/rdf+xml

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Location: http://example.com/RDESC
Content-Type: application/rdf+xml

&lt;?xml version=&quot;1.0&quot;?&gt;
&lt;rdf:RDF&gt;
  &lt;!-- data about R/a representation of R in RDF --&gt;
  ...
  &lt;!-- data about RDESC in RDF --&gt;
  &lt;rdf:Description rdf:about=&quot;&quot;&gt;
    &lt;!-- has the BaseURI (http://example.org/RDESC) as subject --&gt;
    &lt;rdfs:comment&gt;The RDF document.&lt;/rdfs:comment&gt;
    &lt;dc:creator&gt;Ian Davis&lt;/dc:creator&gt;
  &lt;/rdf:Description&gt;
&lt;/rdf:RDF&gt;

---

I know this is NOT what the TAG recommends, but I still can&#039;t see any semantic problems with this approach. Maybe I think too much in REST terms, but I do not have any problems with serving representations where the information content differs, as the mime-type says what sub-part of information the representation contains.

Tore</description>
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<p>My non-kosher solution:</p>
<p>GET /R HTTP/1.1<br />
Host: example.org<br />
Accept: application/rdf+xml</p>
<p>HTTP/1.1 200 OK<br />
Content-Location: <a href="http://example.com/RDESC" rel="nofollow">http://example.com/RDESC</a><br />
Content-Type: application/rdf+xml</p>
<p>&lt;?xml version=&#8221;1.0&#8243;?&gt;<br />
&lt;rdf:RDF&gt;<br />
  &lt;!&#8211; data about R/a representation of R in RDF &#8211;&gt;<br />
  &#8230;<br />
  &lt;!&#8211; data about RDESC in RDF &#8211;&gt;<br />
  &lt;rdf:Description rdf:about=&#8221;"&gt;<br />
    &lt;!&#8211; has the BaseURI (<a href="http://example.org/RDESC" rel="nofollow">http://example.org/RDESC</a>) as subject &#8211;&gt;<br />
    &lt;rdfs:comment&gt;The RDF document.&lt;/rdfs:comment&gt;<br />
    &lt;dc:creator&gt;Ian Davis&lt;/dc:creator&gt;<br />
  &lt;/rdf:Description&gt;<br />
&lt;/rdf:RDF&gt;</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>I know this is NOT what the TAG recommends, but I still can&#8217;t see any semantic problems with this approach. Maybe I think too much in REST terms, but I do not have any problems with serving representations where the information content differs, as the mime-type says what sub-part of information the representation contains.</p>
<p>Tore</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Cyganiak</title>
		<link>http://blog.iandavis.com/2007/12/303-asymmetry/comment-page-1#comment-572</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Cyganiak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not embed the description of RDESC into RDESC? Or publish it as a separate document and link to it from RDESC? After all, RDESC is a document whose content we can GET, unlike R.

(I realize that you are looking for solutions at the level of web architecture. I just want to point out that there are simple yet limited fixes that work today, and perhaps would work well in the Talis scenario you describe above.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not embed the description of RDESC into RDESC? Or publish it as a separate document and link to it from RDESC? After all, RDESC is a document whose content we can GET, unlike R.</p>
<p>(I realize that you are looking for solutions at the level of web architecture. I just want to point out that there are simple yet limited fixes that work today, and perhaps would work well in the Talis scenario you describe above.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Davies</title>
		<link>http://blog.iandavis.com/2007/12/303-asymmetry/comment-page-1#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,

There was an earlier discussion on the TAG list about this.  My question:

  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007Aug/0075.html

and TimBL&#039;s reply:

  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007Aug/0089.html

It looks like everybody comes up with a slightly different idea for the details of the header(s) but we&#039;re all thinking basically the same thing.

As to whether they&#039;d have come up with 303 if some such header had existed - I don&#039;t know.  But use of 303 and such headers are not exclusive, though combination would perhaps be a bit more complicated than absolutely necessary.

Ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>There was an earlier discussion on the TAG list about this.  My question:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007Aug/0075.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007Aug/0075.html</a></p>
<p>and TimBL&#8217;s reply:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007Aug/0089.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007Aug/0089.html</a></p>
<p>It looks like everybody comes up with a slightly different idea for the details of the header(s) but we&#8217;re all thinking basically the same thing.</p>
<p>As to whether they&#8217;d have come up with 303 if some such header had existed &#8211; I don&#8217;t know.  But use of 303 and such headers are not exclusive, though combination would perhaps be a bit more complicated than absolutely necessary.</p>
<p>Ed.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Reinhardt</title>
		<link>http://blog.iandavis.com/2007/12/303-asymmetry/comment-page-1#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Reinhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; I seem to recall something similar to this being proposed a few years back but my Googling doesnâ€™t turn anything up.

Ian, I think what you were looking for is http://esw.w3.org/topic/LinkHeader .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; I seem to recall something similar to this being proposed a few years back but my Googling doesnâ€™t turn anything up.</p>
<p>Ian, I think what you were looking for is <a href="http://esw.w3.org/topic/LinkHeader" rel="nofollow">http://esw.w3.org/topic/LinkHeader</a> .</p>
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